<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Is Archiving Film Necessary</title>
	<atom:link href="http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/</link>
	<description>A Maverick Manifesto for the 21st Century Photograher</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:34:25 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: figitalrevolution</title>
		<link>http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/#comment-1444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[figitalrevolution]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://figitalrevolution.com/?p=2758#comment-1444</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I agree that there is something nice about looking at and going over negatives... and I also agree that it is one of the nice aspects to wet and hybrid photography. I am always torn on this issue but with my ever increasing archive and my method of working (one of one) it makes sense for me. I also agree that a 50 cal would be better... I will try to get one for my next video... I know someone who has one...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there is something nice about looking at and going over negatives&#8230; and I also agree that it is one of the nice aspects to wet and hybrid photography. I am always torn on this issue but with my ever increasing archive and my method of working (one of one) it makes sense for me. I also agree that a 50 cal would be better&#8230; I will try to get one for my next video&#8230; I know someone who has one&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/#comment-1439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://figitalrevolution.com/?p=2758#comment-1439</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I forgot to say that the video was funny. I especially liked the 9mm.

David understands what I was talking about. Edit and print all you want, but isn&#039;t it nice to have a solid version of the original image; a  substrate that was actually touched by the very light that &quot;wrote&quot; the subject? To me, this is one of the best things about film.

I might suffer from a bit of romanticism, but destroying negatives is like scanning a loved one&#039;s hand written letter, changing the font, adding a few words, saving it all to disc and then destroying the original with gunfire.  I would only do that to a letter from Visa. In that case I would use a 50 cal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to say that the video was funny. I especially liked the 9mm.</p>
<p>David understands what I was talking about. Edit and print all you want, but isn&#8217;t it nice to have a solid version of the original image; a  substrate that was actually touched by the very light that &#8220;wrote&#8221; the subject? To me, this is one of the best things about film.</p>
<p>I might suffer from a bit of romanticism, but destroying negatives is like scanning a loved one&#8217;s hand written letter, changing the font, adding a few words, saving it all to disc and then destroying the original with gunfire.  I would only do that to a letter from Visa. In that case I would use a 50 cal.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: David Comdico</title>
		<link>http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/#comment-1436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Comdico]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://figitalrevolution.com/?p=2758#comment-1436</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Your approach to the negative is very Zen, and if I had 20,000 negatives to look after I might be feeling the need for a more radical approach too. But I&#039;m a light shooter, a roll every week or so, so my archive is very slim and easy enough to manage.

As has been said, I am skeptical of digital as an archival medium. I really worry about how our current culture will be remembered visually 100-200 years in the future. I think this prove to be the final irony as technology marches on. I think negatives stand a much better chance.

I also agree with the comment above about the veracity of the negative. It is not an issue of editing, but of correspondence. All truth is relative, since it is part of a human abstract framework. But whether someone or something existed, or looked a certain way, or suffered a particular travail is not. The meaning of those events, especially from the perspective of art, is highly subjective, and, yes, various types of editing can effect the meaning, but this a different argument. Check out Errol Morris&#039; thoughts on the subject at his blog at the NY Times: http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/

This is relevant because we are living in a time when photographic deceit is gradually becoming an accepted norm by an increasingly credulous public.

So,in short,  I think retaining the negatives is important, now more than ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your approach to the negative is very Zen, and if I had 20,000 negatives to look after I might be feeling the need for a more radical approach too. But I&#8217;m a light shooter, a roll every week or so, so my archive is very slim and easy enough to manage.</p>
<p>As has been said, I am skeptical of digital as an archival medium. I really worry about how our current culture will be remembered visually 100-200 years in the future. I think this prove to be the final irony as technology marches on. I think negatives stand a much better chance.</p>
<p>I also agree with the comment above about the veracity of the negative. It is not an issue of editing, but of correspondence. All truth is relative, since it is part of a human abstract framework. But whether someone or something existed, or looked a certain way, or suffered a particular travail is not. The meaning of those events, especially from the perspective of art, is highly subjective, and, yes, various types of editing can effect the meaning, but this a different argument. Check out Errol Morris&#8217; thoughts on the subject at his blog at the NY Times: <a href="http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/" rel="nofollow">http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/</a></p>
<p>This is relevant because we are living in a time when photographic deceit is gradually becoming an accepted norm by an increasingly credulous public.</p>
<p>So,in short,  I think retaining the negatives is important, now more than ever.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: figitalrevolution</title>
		<link>http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/#comment-1432</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[figitalrevolution]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://figitalrevolution.com/?p=2758#comment-1432</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Thank you... I was starting to worry that I was the only one who found the video funny...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you&#8230; I was starting to worry that I was the only one who found the video funny&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: cidereye</title>
		<link>http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/#comment-1431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cidereye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://figitalrevolution.com/?p=2758#comment-1431</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Never mind the serious side of all this what about the excellent video clip, top marks Stephen! Great sense of humour as always - loved it! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind the serious side of all this what about the excellent video clip, top marks Stephen! Great sense of humour as always &#8211; loved it! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: figitalrevolution</title>
		<link>http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/#comment-1429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[figitalrevolution]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://figitalrevolution.com/?p=2758#comment-1429</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[all art is editive.... I sense another audio blog on this topic... now with LVT and digital negatives that match perfectly in camera negatives who is to say which is real... silver gelatin prints made from digital negatives... are they real...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all art is editive&#8230;. I sense another audio blog on this topic&#8230; now with LVT and digital negatives that match perfectly in camera negatives who is to say which is real&#8230; silver gelatin prints made from digital negatives&#8230; are they real&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/#comment-1428</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://figitalrevolution.com/?p=2758#comment-1428</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[A generation or two from now, when photos can be manipulated down to the very individual pixel and beyond, who will believe the authenticity of any image at all?

I like the idea that a negative is solid evidence that a unique or even strange event was not Photoshopped, even if I am the only one who needs such proof when I&#039;m old and senile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A generation or two from now, when photos can be manipulated down to the very individual pixel and beyond, who will believe the authenticity of any image at all?</p>
<p>I like the idea that a negative is solid evidence that a unique or even strange event was not Photoshopped, even if I am the only one who needs such proof when I&#8217;m old and senile.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: figitalrevolution</title>
		<link>http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/#comment-1427</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[figitalrevolution]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://figitalrevolution.com/?p=2758#comment-1427</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I always tell people to print their images as that is the best method to ensure that it will be viewable for generations to come and it is way more personal to sit next to someone looking at an album than on a computer display. 

I keep my personal images in a different archive from my artworks and my wife would kill me if she thought I was destroying our family negatives as I agree they are different... now if I could just convince her to organize them!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always tell people to print their images as that is the best method to ensure that it will be viewable for generations to come and it is way more personal to sit next to someone looking at an album than on a computer display. </p>
<p>I keep my personal images in a different archive from my artworks and my wife would kill me if she thought I was destroying our family negatives as I agree they are different&#8230; now if I could just convince her to organize them!!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: A.g.</title>
		<link>http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/#comment-1426</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A.g.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://figitalrevolution.com/?p=2758#comment-1426</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I guess it will boil down to how one really works.

I&#039;m not a professional photographer but i&#039;m just merely an enthusiast that takes pictures of everything and anything that captures my eyes like family events or just people walking. 
With that in mind, I like to keep my negatives with me even if I know 30 years from now my work will not have any value similar to that of Ansel Adams or HCB.

I shoot for personal reasons with film and I have it scanned so that family and friends can see it through social networking sites. Now if my mother wants some of the pictures I&#039;ve taken I will give it to her to have it printed at a local lab.

I guess since my approach to photography is more personal, I like to keep the work as mine that is why I am very hesitant to throw away the negatives even if the images there are really crap.

Right now, I might concentrate on black and white and try developing my own negatives and in the future also adopt the one print policy that you have :D

Have A Good One 
- A.g.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it will boil down to how one really works.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a professional photographer but i&#8217;m just merely an enthusiast that takes pictures of everything and anything that captures my eyes like family events or just people walking.<br />
With that in mind, I like to keep my negatives with me even if I know 30 years from now my work will not have any value similar to that of Ansel Adams or HCB.</p>
<p>I shoot for personal reasons with film and I have it scanned so that family and friends can see it through social networking sites. Now if my mother wants some of the pictures I&#8217;ve taken I will give it to her to have it printed at a local lab.</p>
<p>I guess since my approach to photography is more personal, I like to keep the work as mine that is why I am very hesitant to throw away the negatives even if the images there are really crap.</p>
<p>Right now, I might concentrate on black and white and try developing my own negatives and in the future also adopt the one print policy that you have <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Have A Good One<br />
- A.g.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: sojournerphoto</title>
		<link>http://figitalrevolution.com/2009/09/02/is-archiving-film-necessary/#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sojournerphoto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://figitalrevolution.com/?p=2758#comment-1425</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Interesting discussion. I&#039;m generally pretty open about making new prints of most of my pictures, but I&#039;ve just started doing a series for sale that will be one offs. For work that is for sale, as opposed to pictures for me or family, one offs avoid me revisiting old work and force me to keep doing new things.

On archival storage - I just printed 194 small images from December 2004 for my wife and she asked me to make her a CD of the images. I&#039;mconvinced that that isless archival than the pair of external HDDs they currently reside on and that they are less archival than the box of prints I keep of anything that interests me. Digital has made things harder as it&#039;s easier to make more exposures that we are told should be DAMed (!) and archived etc. Life is just too short. My box of prints is fine for me. 

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion. I&#8217;m generally pretty open about making new prints of most of my pictures, but I&#8217;ve just started doing a series for sale that will be one offs. For work that is for sale, as opposed to pictures for me or family, one offs avoid me revisiting old work and force me to keep doing new things.</p>
<p>On archival storage &#8211; I just printed 194 small images from December 2004 for my wife and she asked me to make her a CD of the images. I&#8217;mconvinced that that isless archival than the pair of external HDDs they currently reside on and that they are less archival than the box of prints I keep of anything that interests me. Digital has made things harder as it&#8217;s easier to make more exposures that we are told should be DAMed (!) and archived etc. Life is just too short. My box of prints is fine for me. </p>
<p>Mike</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

